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Egyptology (from Egypt and Greek -λογία, -logia. Arabic: علم المصريات‎) is the study of ancient Egyptian history, language, literature, religion, and art from the 5th millennium BC until the end of its native religious practices in the AD 4th century. A practitioner of the discipline is an “Egyptologist”. In Europe, particularly on the Continent, Egyptology is primarily regarded as being a philological discipline, while in North America it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptology

The statement above serves as a basic definition of Egyptology and clearly delineates that on one hand it is primarily regarded as being a philological disciple, while on the other hand, it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology. This distinction is also clearly evident of a difference in classification and the manner in which this body of scientific study has evolved not only on the continents of Europe and North America, respectively, but the African diaspora as well given the fact that every major African Historian, archaeologist, linguist and religious scholar have referenced and in turn have been conditioned by the various schools of thought that exist within this discipline.

The purpose of this thread will be to examine this discipline from a philological and archaeological standpoint, with secondary reference to the religious traditions which have influenced the major scholars known as "Egyptologists".
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The first Egyptologists
The first Egyptologists were the ancient Egyptians themselves. Thutmose IV restored the Sphinx and had the dream that inspired his restoration carved on the famous Dream Stele. Less than two centuries later, Prince Khaemweset, fourth son of Ramesses II, is famed for identifying and restoring historic buildings, tombs and temples including the pyramid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptology
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The Dream Stele is a vertical rectangular stele, 144cm Ht, 40cm W, 70cm D. The upper scene lunette, shows Thutmose IV on the right and left making offerings to the Great Sphinx.
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Prince Khaemweset (also translated as Khamwese, Khaemwese or Khaemwaset)[1] was the fourth son of Ramesses II, and the second son by his queen Isetnofret. He is by far the best known son of Ramesses II, and his contributions to Egyptian society were remembered for centuries after his death.[2] Khaemweset has been described as "the first Egyptologist" due to his efforts in identifying and restoring historic buildings, tombs and temples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaemweset

It is largely from the written accounts of Prince Khaemweset that we have record of the Battle of Kadesh.

"Khaemweset grew up with his brothers during a time of foreign conflict and he is present in scenes from the Battle of Kadesh, the siege of Qode (Naharin), and the siege of Dapur in Syria. In the battle of Kadesh scenes from year 5 of Ramesses II, Khaemweset is shown leading sons of the chiefs of Hatti before the gods. These princes were prisoners of war. In scenes depicting the battle of Qode, Khaemweset is shown both leading prisoners before his father and serving as an attendant of his father. In year 10 of Ramesses II Khaemweset is present during the battle of Dapur."

During his reign Khaemweset restored many ancient monuments and his second son Hori served as the High Priest of Ptah at Memphis.
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Manetho (or Manethon, Greek: Μανέθων, Μανέθως) was an Egyptian historian and priest from Sebennytos (ancient Egyptian: Tjebnutjer) who lived during the Ptolemaic era, approximately during the 3rd century BC. Manetho wrote the Aegyptiaca (History of Egypt). His work is of great interest to Egyptologists, and is often used as evidence for the chronology of the reigns of pharaohs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manetho

It is generally believed that Manetho was a priest of Ra at Heliopolis, and much of our information concerning the "cult" of Amen Re comes directly from the accounts of Manetho during the later Ptolemaic era.

"The Aegyptiaca (Ancient Greek Ἀιγυπτιακά, Aigyptiaka), the "History of Egypt", was Manetho's largest work, and certainly the most important. It was organised chronologically and divided into three volumes, and his division of rulers into dynasties was an innovation. However, he did not use the term in the modern sense, by bloodlines, but rather, introduced new dynasties whenever he detected some sort of discontinuity whether geographical (Dynasty IV from Memphis, Dynasty V from Elephantine), or genealogical (especially in Dynasty I, he refers to each successive Pharaoh as the "son" of the previous to define what he means by "continuity"). Within the superstructure of a genealogical table of rulers, he fills in the gaps with substantial narratives of the Pharaonic rulers."
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Diodorus Siculus (Greek: Διόδωρος Σικελιώτης, Diodoros Sikeliotes) was a Greek historian who flourished between 60 and 30 BC. According to Diodorus' own work, he was born at Agyrium in Sicily (now called Agira). With one exception, antiquity affords no further information about Diodorus' life and doings beyond what is to be found in his own work, Bibliotheca historica. Only Jerome, in his Chronicon under the "year of Abraham 1968" (i.e., 49 BC), writes, "Diodorus of Sicily, a writer of Greek history, became illustrious". His English translator, Charles Henry Oldfather, remarks on the "striking coincidence" that one of only two known Greek inscriptions from Agyrium (I.G. XIV, 588) is the tombstone of one "Diodorus, the son of Apollonius".

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"Diodorus' universal history, which he named Bibliotheca historica ("Historical Library"), consisted of 40 books, of which 1–5 and 11–20 survive, and were divided into three sections. The first six books treat the mythic history of the non-Hellenic and Hellenic tribes to the destruction of Troy and are geographical in theme, and describe the history and culture of Ancient Egypt (book I), of Mesopotamia, India, Scythia, and Arabia (II), of North Africa (III), and of Greece and Europe (IV–VI). His account of gold mining in Egypt is one of the earliest extant texts on the topic, and describes in vivid detail the use of slave labour in terrible conditions."

It is from the "Bibliotheca" historica that the "Bible" was complied as the so-called Table of Nations and the genealogies of the sons of Judah, Zerah and Pharez, were chronicled from the period approximating the Trojan War to the death of Alexander the Great. It is from this work that the later Irish Genealogies were grafted in regards to the legends of Milesius, Gallam, Scotia and Tea Tehpi, and merged with the Hebrew genealogical record of the sons of Pharez through the personages of King Zedekiah and Joseph of Arimathea.
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The principal Egyptologist of antiquity who lived circa the birth and life of Yeshua was Strabo who was a Greek historian, geographer and philosopher.

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"Strabo's life was characterized by extensive travels. He journeyed to Egypt and Kush, as far west as coastal Tuscany and as far south as Ethiopia in addition to his travels in Asia Minor and time spent in Rome. Travel throughout the Mediterranean and Near East, especially for scholarly purposes, was popular during this era, and was facilitated by the relative peace enjoyed throughout the reign of Augustus (27 BC - AD 14). He moved to Rome in 44 BC, and stayed there, studying and writing, until at least 31 BC. In 29 BC, on his way to Corinth (where Augustus was at the time), he visited the island of Gyaros in the Aegean Sea for several years. Around 25 BC, he sailed up the Nile until reaching Philae,[4] after which point there is little record of his proceedings until 17 AD, when he returned to Rome to finish compiling a final draft of his Geography during his final years."

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There are two other historians of note who I did not mention. These were Herodotus and Philo. Herodotus was known in this field mostly for contributing his text known as "The Histories" which gave a detailed account of the ancient world as he traveled throughout the Diaspora.

Philo is not typically thought of as an Egyptologist but he was definitely an influential member of the Alexandrian School which served as a precursor for many Egyptologists and Theosophists through the development of a discipline that was known as Christology.

"His ancestors and family had social ties and connections to the Priesthood in Judea; Hasmonean Dynasty; Herodian Dynasty and Julio-Claudian dynasty in Rome, though It is likely that Philo only visited the Temple in Jerusalem once in his lifetime.[4] Philo would have been a contemporary to Jesus of Nazareth and his Apostles. Philo along with his brothers received a thorough education. They were educated in the Hellenistic culture of Alexandria and Roman culture, to a degree in Ancient Egyptian culture and particularly in the traditions of Judaism, in the study of Jewish traditional literature[5] and in Greek philosophy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philo
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This brings us to Josephus who I will elaborate on later, GOD willing.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flavius-josephus/antiquities-jews/
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omowalejabali said: ↑
Egyptology (from Egypt and Greek -λογία, -logia. Arabic: علم المصريات‎) is the study of ancient Egyptian history, language, literature, religion, and art from the 5th millennium BC until the end of its native religious practices in the AD 4th century. A practitioner of the discipline is an “Egyptologist”. In Europe, particularly on the Continent, Egyptology is primarily regarded as being a philological discipline, while in North America it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptology

The statement above serves as a basic definition of Egyptology and clearly delineates that on one hand it is primarily regarded as being a philological disciple, while on the other hand, it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology. This distinction is also clearly evident of a difference in classification and the manner in which this body of scientific study has evolved not only on the continents of Europe and North America, respectively, but the African diaspora as well given the fact that every major African Historian, archaeologist, linguist and religious scholar have referenced and in turn have been conditioned by the various schools of thought that exist within this discipline.

The purpose of this thread will be to examine this discipline from a philological and archaeological standpoint, with secondary reference to the religious traditions which have influenced the major scholars known as "Egyptologists".

omowalejabali said: ↑
Egyptology (from Egypt and Greek -λογία, -logia. Arabic: علم المصريات‎) is the study of ancient Egyptian history, language, literature, religion, and art from the 5th millennium BC until the end of its native religious practices in the AD 4th century. A practitioner of the discipline is an “Egyptologist”. In Europe, particularly on the Continent, Egyptology is primarily regarded as being a philological discipline, while in North America it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptology

The statement above serves as a basic definition of Egyptology and clearly delineates that on one hand it is primarily regarded as being a philological disciple, while on the other hand, it is often regarded as a branch of archaeology. This distinction is also clearly evident of a difference in classification and the manner in which this body of scientific study has evolved not only on the continents of Europe and North America, respectively, but the African diaspora as well given the fact that every major African Historian, archaeologist, linguist and religious scholar have referenced and in turn have been conditioned by the various schools of thought that exist within this discipline.

The purpose of this thread will be to examine this discipline from a philological and archaeological standpoint, with secondary reference to the religious traditions which have influenced the major scholars known as "Egyptologists".

Definition... I love the topic but I am uncomfortable with the title.. I know see Egypt as a melting pot so to speak now that we have knowledge that the majority of the trains of thought come out if either opia and Memphis .. what do u think.. I think Egypt has gotten way to much credit.. it has become no more than major city in my eyes
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